Signings

[nak108]

Heres a list of all the players Aidy has signed this season. What are your ratings out of ten for them?

Poom- 5
Jackson-4
Sadler-7
Eustace-8 STAR SIGNING
John-5.5
McAnuff-6
Ellington-6
Bromby-7.5
Ainsworth-6
Aloi-3

Overall for me thats a score of 58/100

not so good :(

[Walter White]

Would rather judge him on the signings hes made since he arrived, imo they are

King
Foster
Henderson
Eustace
****tu
Sadler
Spring

On the other hand there where bads ones, imo they are

Stewart
Jackson
Sietes
Devany
John
Priskin
Hoskins

[Gazhorn]

Don't forget Junior and that Visa debacle

Also I wouldn't rate Aloi (wheel) till he makes an appearance, if he makes one that is...

[DMR]

Would rather judge him on the signings hes made since he arrived, imo they are

King
Foster
Henderson
Eustace
****tu
Sadler
Spring

On the other hand there where bads ones, imo they are

Stewart
Jackson
Sietes
Devany
John
Priskin
Hoskins

With you there mate

[Bubble]

Heres a list of all the players Aidy has signed this season. What are your ratings out of ten for them?

Poom- 5
Jackson-4
Sadler-7
Eustace-8 STAR SIGNING
John-5.5
McAnuff-6
Ellington-6
Bromby-7.5
Ainsworth-6
Aloi-3

Overall for me thats a score of 58/100

not so good :(

Poom - 5
Jackson - 3
John - 2
McAnuff - 6
Ellington - 4
Bromby - 8
Sadler - 8
Eustace - 9
Ainsworth - 3
Aloi - 0

48/100

Not good enough! The three signings he made in Eustace, Sadler and Bromby were absolutley fantastic signings, and had it not been for them there is no way we would still be hanging on in the top six!

McAnuff, Ellington, Poom, Jackson and John are all signings that have failed to deliver (aside from Poom, who was unfairly dropped IMO anyway)...they're probably 5 of the highest earners at the club aswell!

I have stuck up for McAnuff a lot, but i'm not defending him anymore, he's simply not delivered for us! Ellington looks unfit to me, and i'd like to see more of him next season...give him a summer to lose a stone and get himself ready for next season...and play someone upfront with him that likes to play on the shoulder of the defender...we may see more from him!

John was a total waste of space of a signing! Aidy has signed him unfit and with no match practise for a long time...this was the man brought in to replace Marlon King :rolleyes:

Poom and Jackson were suppose to be the experienced heads in the side! While Jacko isn't a bad defender, he has the pace of a rocking horse! Poom was unfairly dropped IMO, didn't really do much wrong, but did at times look a little bit shakey coming off his line!

Aloi hasn't played so how can he get a rating above zero!?

Ainsworth, IMO, is one for the future, but needs a year out on loan at a League One/Championship club next season to develope!

[willmer]

Poom- 5 Can't even get in the team a 3
Jackson-4 old slow not even worth signing 1
Sadler-7 good signing 7
Eustace-8 best signing this season 8
John-5.5 you can't even rate him not even worth signing to keep the bench warm 0
McAnuff-6 a let down i thought he'd set the place alight 5
Ellington-6 value for money so far only worth a 2
Bromby-7.5 a good buy Aidy got right 7
Ainsworth-6 not in team only a 3
Aloi-3 err forgot about the next Maradona 0

[sexybadger]

For me Macnuff has been the most disappointing, simply because I had such high hopes for him. At first I turned a blind eye to his shocking final ball but my patience has gone in recent weeks when we needed him to perform more than ever. He can't even beat his man anymore. It may be down to confidence, but for me, we have been ripped off big time.

[Gazhorn]

For me Macnuff has been the most disappointing, simply because I had such high hopes for him. At first I turned a blind eye to his shocking final ball but my patience has gone in recent weeks when we needed him to perform more than ever. He can't even beat his man anymore. It may be down to confidence, but for me, we have been ripped off big time.

Perhaps you shouldn't have had such high hopes for him?;)

[hartvix]

To be honest I can't believe the signings Boothroyd has made in the three last transfer windows. A few decent Championship players alright, but mostly just unbeliveable wasting of money.

Poom 4 - How hard can it be to find a first choice goalkeeper?
Jackson 1 - 10k wages over two years for a player who is way over the hill and completely useless.
Sadler 7 - Best signing this year.
Eustace 6 - Seems like a decent player. Let's hope he doesn't get injured again.
John 3 - On paper he's a good prospect but we kinda needed a striker who can PLAY NOW in our promotion battle.
McAnuff 5 - Pretty good but I was expecting more. High price as well.
Ellington 3 - For that price you expect a 20-goal-a-year clear first choice striker in the Championship.
Bromby 6 - Solid but can't see him as a Premiership player.
Ainsworth 5 - Looks like a decent prospect.
Aloi ? - No big deal. Didn't make it, move on.

[willmer]

Would rather judge him on the signings hes made since he arrived, imo they are

King
Foster
Henderson
Eustace
****tu
Sadler
Spring

On the other hand there where bads ones, imo they are

Stewart
Jackson
Sietes
Devany
John
Priskin
Hoskins

King ----gone great signing but we need to hold on to these players
Foster----gone loan anyway
henderson ----well worth the money
Eustace---looks good
****tu---great but if we don't go up he'll move on
Sadler----doing ok
Spring---gone done great think he still had a season in him

[Harrow Orn]

Poom- 5
Jackson-3
Sadler-7
Eustace-9
John-6
McAnuff-8
Ellington-4
Bromby-8
Ainsworth-5
Aloi-0

55/100

[jpROOKERYwfc]

My good list:

eustace
king
henderson
carlisle
mackay
smith
foster
eagles

my bad list:

hoskins
sietes
john
poom
devaney
aloi
rinaldi
benjamin
agbonlahor

[orns4life]

Would rather judge him on the signings hes made since he arrived, imo they are

King
Foster
Henderson
Eustace
****tu
Sadler
Spring

On the other hand there where bads ones, imo they are

Stewart
Jackson
Sietes
Devany
John
Priskin
Hoskins

agreed, even though in your bad signing thing i think Devaney would have been a good signing, hes done well in this league at barnsley but had this bust up on tour and that was it.


Don't forget Junior and that Visa debacle



Not sure its aidys job to check the players legal status.




John was a total waste of space of a signing! Aidy has signed him unfit and with no match practise for a long time...this was the man brought in to replace Marlon King :rolleyes:


I think aidy knew john was a risk which is why he made it a loan, agree he was never going to replace king and its something which aidy needed to do and didn't.


I know aidys had a bad season (even though i always end up defending him on here) but some people do enjoy criticising him too much, i don't think you'll find many managers who can look through their career without one or two bad seasons in there with bad signings. To sack him after one bad season (and if in that bad season we still get a play-off place and possibly promotion it shows the sucess hes having) would be a poor decision imo

[albangura9]

Poom- 5
Jackson-4
Sadler-7
Eustace-8 STAR SIGNING
John-5.5
McAnuff-6
Ellington-6
Bromby-7.5
Ainsworth-6
Aloi-3

Overall for me thats a score of 58/100

not so good :(


Basing on what they have actually done-

Poom 2
Jackson 1
Sadler 7
Eustace 8
John 1
McAnuff 4
Ellington 3
Bromby 6
Ainsworth 3
Aloi 0

=35/100

[Torontotimmy]

Poom- 5 We need a young Foster type who can be developed by Alec
Jackson- 2 Failed to add the stability of experience, should have signed him on a pay per play contract
Sadler-7 Good
Eustace-9 Very Good
John-3 Embarrassing
McAnuff-5 Jury is still out
Ellington-2 We could have got a lot more for the money
Bromby-7.5 Good
Ainsworth-6 The type of player we should be signing....but why not play him & in position?
Aloi-3 See above but worth a try, you never know

Overall for me thats a score of 49.5 /100

What is more concerning are these clowns
Avinel
Hoskins
Sietes
Rinaldi
Kabba
Devaney
Benjamin
Ashikodi
Bangura
Campana
Most of them are still on our books, it does not take much to see their contracts need tearing up, paying them off & brining in one or two quality players to fill the gap & at least put pressure on the current first team.

The trouble I see is we have many players who at times need to be dropped or just rested, yet no one is pushing for their places, for Aidy not to resolve that situation rates for me as one of his biggest failings.

But overall, back to Naks assessment:
Not good enough given next year we will have to shop in the bargain basement if we miss out on promotion, sadly I feel our Premiership windfall has been wasted on poor quality & that is why I am worried about Aidy without experienced support now.

[The Voice of Reason]

Poom- 7 - I think a lot of people have been unfair to Poom, he has never let us down, and was unlucky to lose his place. If he had not got injured I think he would have still be our No1

Jackson- 4 - poor signing, we should have off loaded him to Blackpool when we had the chance.

Sadler- 6 - steady enough, but the jury is still out on him as far as I am concerned.

Eustace - 7.5 - so far so good, but gives away to many needless fouls for my liking.

John - 6.5 - what I have seen of him I have liked, could end up being a star buy if he regains full fitness.

McAnuff - 5.5 - I'm disappointed by him, he has had no real end product, he should be doing better.

Ellington - 5.5 - So frustrating, obviously is so talented, but something is lacking so far.

Bromby - 8 - For me he is Aidys Star Buy, has hardly put a foot wrong since signing.

Ainsworth - 6.5 - Has looked good in flashes, and I think he will prove a good buy, but is still a little on the raw side.

[With A Smile]

I think that some of the problem is that Aidy has bought some very very good technical players or players with a good record at this level - Ellington, Priskin, McNuff, Johns, Hoskins, Kabba, and Rhinaldi for example

All good technically or with a proven record at this level.

What we do know though is that all these players like the ball at their feet and don't necessarilly suit our style, therefore making them a less effective.

On the other side he has bought ****tu and Henderson. Neither particually technical, skillfull or with a great proven record, BUT because they play the stlyle of football that we play they are deemed to be a sucsess.

[8yellow4]

Poom- 6 - We need 2 keepers and him and Lee are roughly the same standard
Jackson- 3
Sadler-7
Eustace-9
John- Irrelevant as it's a loan
McAnuff-6
Ellington-6
Bromby-7.5
Ainsworth-5
Aloi- irrelevant as it's a loan

Without loans 42.5/80 (53% success rate)

Poom- 6 - We need 2 keepers and him and Lee are roughly the same standard
Jackson- 3
Sadler-7
Eustace-9
John- 5
McAnuff-6
Ellington-6
Bromby-7.5
Ainsworth-5
Aloi- 0
Johnson - 10

With loans - 69.5/110 (63% success rate)

I don't actually think it's that bad this season, granted last January Aidy brought in a load of ***** but I think this season has been considerably better...
Ellington has started to look better in recent games
McAnuff can be better - like Bubble I've stood up for him but he has been a disappointment this season, although one season doesn't make a player.
John - we haven't really paid for and the guy has genuine class and can play off the last defender which we desperately need.
Aloi - What's the point of even including him to be honest and that's not a dig at you Nak.

IMO the only bad signings this season have been Jackson and Ainsworth

[wfcmoog]

IMO the only bad signings this season have been Jackson and Ainsworth

That's a totally incredible statement. You mention Muff and Ellington, yet somehow you are counting these as good signings? 7 goals and about 4 assists between them for a combined fee which could rise to somewhere over 6 million? Are you mental?

Poom is a difficult one, as we need a 2nd keeper, but I'd argue that for the wages we should have got much better value.

Your dismissal of loans is remarkable too. Surely the loan system is there to be used to the advantage of your team? With Johnson, Aidy got it spot on and we picked up points because of it. With John though and Aloi, he has loaned players in who have given us nothing. Further evidence (as if any were needed) of his terrible judgement. With a bit more skillful use of the loan system, we may have been able to freshen up our squad for the run in and be sitting pretty right now.

As for Ainsworth, that was unforgivable. We brought the lad in on loan to see what he could do. We saw he was shyte, yet Aidy went out and spent good money on bringing him in, where he would be a further drain on our wage bill.

Aloi was clearly brought in on Burkinshaw's reccomendation (the Ricky Villa connection).

Let's not also forget he made the Rinaldi signing permanent, despite having had plenty of time to make a judgement on him when he was on loan.

My ratings:

Poom 4 - The idea was to bring in someone better than Lee. We paid too much in wages to boot.
Jackson 1 - 10k wages for a player who's given us nothing! And he's got another Year!!!
Sadler 5 - People seem to overrate him. He's OK but not a revelation
Eustace 8 - Belated solution to part of our midfield problem. It's taken Aidy long enough to find one midfielder, perhaps in 3 years we can expect him to sign a playmaker to play alongside him.
John 0 - Waste of time and wages. We needed someone to come in and replace our best striker, so Aidy took a punt on a lame duck.
McAnuff 2 - Surely only still playing because Aidy has failed to sign a decent back up and let Macca go.
Ellington 1 - The money spent was incredible for such a poor footballer. We now find ourselves short of funds. We could have rebuilt the team instead of signing this lump.
Bromby 5 - Useful squad signing. Decent Champ defenders are 10 a penny though. We let one go to Burnley earlier in the season.
Ainsworth 0 - Why sign him permanently after he failed to impress on loan? Why?
Aloi 0 - Was a punt which hasn't paid off. In isolation, no big deal, but in context, symptomatic of Aidy's shot in the dark transfer policy
Rinaldi 0 - Had plenty of time to judge him when on loan, but has now signed him permanently to bolster our reserves. Pointless business.

[Gazhorn]

IMO the only bad signings this season have been Jackson and Ainsworth

Someone's been on the magic mushrooms, one suspects!

[8yellow4]

Your dismissal of loans is remarkable too.

I was actually referring to the fact that in Nak's post two loan signings that haven't worked out were mentioned (John, Aloi) and not the one that was sensational (Johnson). The fact that I included a table that considered both with loans and without clearly indicates I haven't dismissed them at all.

I agree with the points that we may be paying too much in wages for some of the players and too much on a fee for others but at the end of the day the money they are being paid and was paid for them is not down to them but Aidy, GS and MA.

The majority of the signings are good signings for the club but are being badly managed and badly utilised by the current coaching/management team.

Put simply - stop ucking moanin ;)

[wfcmoog]

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I was actually referring to the fact that in Nak's post two loan signings that haven't worked out were mentioned (John, Aloi) and not the one that was sensational (Johnson). The fact that I included a table that considered both with loans and without clearly indicates I haven't dismissed them at all.

I agree with the points that we may be paying too much in wages for some of the players and too much on a fee for others but at the end of the day the money they are being paid and was paid for them is not down to them but Aidy, GS and MA.

The majority of the signings are good signings for the club but are being badly managed and badly utilised by the current coaching/management team.

Put simply - stop ucking moanin ;)

Fair point on your treatment of the loans. Aidy's failure to make best use of them still rankles. Despite all his other failings, if he'd been able to get one or two in before the window closed, we might have been top of the league by now.

So what you're saying in bold is sack Aidy and the players will come good?

[8yellow4]

Despite all his other failings, if he'd been able to get one or two in before the window closed, we might have been top of the league by now.

So what you're saying in bold is sack Aidy and the players will come good?

That's the best thing about football though - the ifs buts and maybes. If Hendo had scored the pens against stoke and Brizzle we would be top but would we be here at all without loaning in Johnson.

As for sacking Aidy I don't think it will do us any good financially or on the field. I've always been a supporter of him but the big test will be over the summer, promoted or not. A change in style is needed to compliment the players he brought in, if he hasn't done this by Nov/Dec then it's time for a change as we're wasting talent in attempting to turn them into a team of workhorses'.

[wfcmoog]

That's the best thing about football though - the ifs buts and maybes. If Hendo had scored the pens against stoke and Brizzle we would be top but would we be here at all without loaning in Johnson.

As for sacking Aidy I don't think it will do us any good financially or on the field. I've always been a supporter of him but the big test will be over the summer, promoted or not. A change in style is needed to compliment the players he brought in, if he hasn't done this by Nov/Dec then it's time for a change as we're wasting talent in attempting to turn them into a team of workhorses'.

They are not ifs buts and maybes though. They are obvious failings of a clueless manager. Most of the fans can see that we play shyte inneffective football, but he cannot. Most of the fans can see when we need to freshen up a turgid performance with fresh legs, but he cannot. Most of the fans saw that our squad going into the run in was weak and needed a boost, but he did not. Sorry, this is not 20/20 hindsight talking here, it's simply how is Aidy the only fekking moron in the asylum who can't see the glaringly obvious?

[Chewitt]

Poom 7 - He's come in for a ludicrous amount of criticism despite never doing anything wrong !!

Sadler 7 - Bought some much needed stability at LB.

Bromby 8 - A shrewd buy, there's now very good competition for the two CB places.

Eustace 8 - A top buy, a highly upgraded version of Mahon.

John 5 - Meh.

Ellington 5 - Not delivered enough.

McAnuff 5 - Final ball/shot has been farking awful.

Ainsworth 5 - Sparingly used, a decent 45 mins but poor elsewhere.

How anybody can give Aloi a rating at all i don't know.

[wfcmoog]

Poom 7 - He's come in for a ludicrous amount of criticism despite never doing anything wrong !!

Sadler 7 - Bought some much needed stability at LB.

Bromby 8 - A shrewd buy, there's now very good competition for the two CB places.

Eustace 8 - A top buy, a highly upgraded version of Mahon.

John 5 - Meh.

Ellington 5 - Not delivered enough.

McAnuff 5 - Final ball/shot has been farking awful.

Ainsworth 5 - Sparingly used, a decent 45 mins but poor elsewhere.

How anybody can give Aloi a rating at all i don't know.

Pooooooom's done little right though either and will be on big wages. We should have got a keeper to improve on what we already had

5 for John is generous on a par with Rockefeller.

[Chewitt]

Poom's done little right ?

Nonsense, he's done what he's needed to do with minimal fuss, made some decent stops and i can't recall a goal where he could have done much else. So he's not got a huge kick/throw like Foster and hasn't made TV saves, doesn't make him a bad signing.

John's had very little football and has done little right nor wrong so a middle of the road 5 is suitable.

[wfcwarehouse]

Poom 6 - Not done much wrong and arguably won us 3 points against Cardiff earlier this season. I'm not exaggerating when I say he made a few world class saves.

Sadler 7 - Best LB for a while.

Bromby 7 - Looks good business to me. Very composed and works well with ****tu.

Eustace 8 - Best signing, holds the midfield together.

John 4 - Not good, not bad.

Ellington 5 - Not delivered as of yet.

McAnuff 6 - The talent is definitely there but he hasn't yet lived up to expectation.

Ainsworth 5 - Looked useful against Plymouth, apart from that not a lot can be said.

[Bubble]

Poom's done little right ?

Nonsense, he's done what he's needed to do with minimal fuss, made some decent stops and i can't recall a goal where he could have done much else. So he's not got a huge kick/throw like Foster and hasn't made TV saves, doesn't make him a bad signing.

Absolutley right! Poom has done nothing wrong at all.

[PotGuy]

Absolutley right! Poom has done nothing wrong at all.

No but for £10k a week for somebody with no potential at all and who is virtually at the end of his career you would have expected him to have held down a place.

Not a bad signing, but not really a good one either.

Though to be fair you could have bought in Cech and Lee would still have been given the nod due to his immenseness.

[Chewitt]

Of course he had no potential, what were you expecting ? As for the amount of money he's being paid, well that's got little to do with how he's performed. You seem to be blaming him for not holding down a place whereas it's actually Lee who's kept him out of the side. It's just pointless criticism of Poom, of course he's a good signing, if i remember correctly he was part of the back 5 that were so strong in the 1st few months of the season which had us streaking clear at the top.

Lay off him !!

[wfcmoog]

The point is Chewitt, he's cost a fair whack and given us little. The whole point was to bring in a 'keeper who was better than Lee and we haven't. Lee is a mediocre Champ quality keeper. In my opinion, the fact that Mart has been kept out of the side by him makes him a failure of a signing.